Comments on: Those dreadful early decisions http://jonefox.com/blog/2008/05/28/those-dreadful-early-decisions/ My rants, ramblings, and random thoughts Fri, 12 Mar 2010 14:13:59 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Children's toys http://jonefox.com/blog/2008/05/28/those-dreadful-early-decisions/comment-page-1/#comment-6172 Children's toys Thu, 03 Dec 2009 18:27:57 +0000 http://jonefox.com/blog/?p=33#comment-6172 A well researched site, I'll link to it from my site thanks A well researched site, I’ll link to it from my site thanks

]]> By: win now http://jonefox.com/blog/2008/05/28/those-dreadful-early-decisions/comment-page-1/#comment-5915 win now Mon, 30 Nov 2009 17:36:00 +0000 http://jonefox.com/blog/?p=33#comment-5915 Go there guys buy prescription medications that are used to relax your body, relax your muscles. Go there guys buy prescription medications that are used to relax your body, relax your muscles.

]]> By: jon http://jonefox.com/blog/2008/05/28/those-dreadful-early-decisions/comment-page-1/#comment-672 jon Tue, 06 Jan 2009 04:34:01 +0000 http://jonefox.com/blog/?p=33#comment-672 I respect your point Darrell, but in general I just feel like the UI elements are considerably easier to iterate on. Often you really need to iterate on these and we’ve run into several cases where we spend tons of time thinking through the initial design/layout and then in 3 months we’ve got a completely new feature that doesn’t fit into it nicely or we were wrong in our assumptions of how it would be used. I don’t mean to minimize the importance of these issues (UI/design), but I think often they almost require iterations instead of a long bit of planning in the earliest stages. I respect your point Darrell, but in general I just feel like the UI elements are considerably easier to iterate on. Often you really need to iterate on these and we’ve run into several cases where we spend tons of time thinking through the initial design/layout and then in 3 months we’ve got a completely new feature that doesn’t fit into it nicely or we were wrong in our assumptions of how it would be used. I don’t mean to minimize the importance of these issues (UI/design), but I think often they almost require iterations instead of a long bit of planning in the earliest stages.

]]> By: tmarkiewicz http://jonefox.com/blog/2008/05/28/those-dreadful-early-decisions/comment-page-1/#comment-673 tmarkiewicz Tue, 06 Jan 2009 04:34:01 +0000 http://jonefox.com/blog/?p=33#comment-673 Excellent post Jon. Database design is especially critical in the initial stages as it is so difficult to make relatively large changes later. Unfortunately, I often run into the analysis paralysis trap on the design. When you keep thinking how important this aspect of the development is, you can spend too much time trying to perfect it. A good balance is always needed. Excellent post Jon. Database design is especially critical in the initial stages as it is so difficult to make relatively large changes later. Unfortunately, I often run into the analysis paralysis trap on the design. When you keep thinking how important this aspect of the development is, you can spend too much time trying to perfect it. A good balance is always needed.

]]> By: tom http://jonefox.com/blog/2008/05/28/those-dreadful-early-decisions/comment-page-1/#comment-674 tom Tue, 06 Jan 2009 04:34:01 +0000 http://jonefox.com/blog/?p=33#comment-674 Nice post...totally agree, Jon! Nice post…totally agree, Jon!

]]> By: agent_00133301 http://jonefox.com/blog/2008/05/28/those-dreadful-early-decisions/comment-page-1/#comment-675 agent_00133301 Tue, 06 Jan 2009 04:34:01 +0000 http://jonefox.com/blog/?p=33#comment-675 It is difficult for me to understand but I know making decisions is not easy. Most difficult part are Data collection and standardization. They take a lot of time and you may need to rethink a lot. It is difficult for me to understand but I know making decisions is not easy. Most difficult part are Data collection and standardization. They take a lot of time and you may need to rethink a lot.

]]> By: ktbug8596 http://jonefox.com/blog/2008/05/28/those-dreadful-early-decisions/comment-page-1/#comment-676 ktbug8596 Tue, 06 Jan 2009 04:34:01 +0000 http://jonefox.com/blog/?p=33#comment-676 well, I hope all your other readers understand this.... because I sure don't!!! Go back to writing more posts I can understand! <br /> well, I hope all your other readers understand this…. because I sure don't!!! Go back to writing more posts I can understand!

]]> By: darrell_ro37171 http://jonefox.com/blog/2008/05/28/those-dreadful-early-decisions/comment-page-1/#comment-677 darrell_ro37171 Tue, 06 Jan 2009 04:34:01 +0000 http://jonefox.com/blog/?p=33#comment-677 " In contrast, the UI of the site is something that should be cranked out relatively quickly. I’m sure some will disagree with me on this point, but what I’ve found over and over again is that what we think is the best way is never really the best way." <br /> <br /> Jon, count me as one to disagree with you on this point. Let's set aside the graphic design of a UI for sec and discuss the "other" elements of the user experience - information architecture and interaction design. These need as much forethought as does a DB schema. In this age of RIAs, interaction design has a huge influence over how the user will perceive your product's brand. IA will have an impact on form elements, which does impact your data model. Understanding the impact of both IA and interaction design trickles into decisions about how you manage "state" and structure your data calls. My team has had to rescue several train wrecks in the past year when product teams took the "we'll polish the UI later" attitude. <br /> <br /> What I recommend is to perform lo-fidelity prototyping of the interaction design and IA prior to investing the effort to make pixel-perfect UI comps. A good BA can crank this out in Visio. Or a good designer can use the latest features in Fireworks CS4 to create clickable PDF prototypes to show to potential customers. Heck, you can even have a designer hand sketch the prototype. <br /> <br /> BTW - your other points are spot on! " In contrast, the UI of the site is something that should be cranked out relatively quickly. I’m sure some will disagree with me on this point, but what I’ve found over and over again is that what we think is the best way is never really the best way."

Jon, count me as one to disagree with you on this point. Let's set aside the graphic design of a UI for sec and discuss the "other" elements of the user experience – information architecture and interaction design. These need as much forethought as does a DB schema. In this age of RIAs, interaction design has a huge influence over how the user will perceive your product's brand. IA will have an impact on form elements, which does impact your data model. Understanding the impact of both IA and interaction design trickles into decisions about how you manage "state" and structure your data calls. My team has had to rescue several train wrecks in the past year when product teams took the "we'll polish the UI later" attitude.

What I recommend is to perform lo-fidelity prototyping of the interaction design and IA prior to investing the effort to make pixel-perfect UI comps. A good BA can crank this out in Visio. Or a good designer can use the latest features in Fireworks CS4 to create clickable PDF prototypes to show to potential customers. Heck, you can even have a designer hand sketch the prototype.

BTW – your other points are spot on!

]]> By: Intense Debate on TWiT | Management Newsfeed Update http://jonefox.com/blog/2008/05/28/those-dreadful-early-decisions/comment-page-1/#comment-671 Intense Debate on TWiT | Management Newsfeed Update Wed, 28 May 2008 13:12:28 +0000 http://jonefox.com/blog/?p=33#comment-671 [...] As a special bonus, Jon has a blog and have been putting some of his startup thoughts out there.  You can follow along at home at Jon Fox: The ramblings of a young, web entrepreneur.  His latest - Those dreadful early decisions. [...] [...] As a special bonus, Jon has a blog and have been putting some of his startup thoughts out there.  You can follow along at home at Jon Fox: The ramblings of a young, web entrepreneur.  His latest – Those dreadful early decisions. [...]

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